SUBJECT: SAD TIMES MY FRIENDS............

Friday. July 23. 1999 - 16:14:13 PST

	Name: Dh'arlo'me
	Email: dryiad_fae@hotmail.com

Did anyone ever sit and just think as to why, we are a slowly vanishing race? Its a good question, one which I have a million theories to, but none good enough even to be posted. Does anyone have something on this? may Light shine on your path Dh'arlo'me

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Friday. July 23. 1999 - 16:45:33 PST

	Name: Michelle
	Email:

People stop believing.

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Friday. July 23. 1999 - 17:19:49 PST

	Name: Iluvyn
	Email: daasfan@mindless.com

or they just don't realise.....or they're to caught up wth humans that they resent anything to do with the fae......

SUBJECT: well an opinion

Friday. July 23. 1999 - 17:27:24 PST

	Name: wyvern blade
	Email: _wyvern@excite.com

Its seems that they dont loose the way so few are told and so few are being informed of correctness. we have staed seperate from the masses of different cultures. our voice has not been herd. My question is why belive and who goes and finds the fay to show them the path to follow. No one gains knowlage unless 2 things happen. 1 The knowlage is there that one only be made aware of it. 2 the way of learning. wyvern blade

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Friday. July 23. 1999 - 18:23:29 PST

	Name: Iluvyn
	Email: daasfan@mindless.com

perhaps something should be done about that

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Friday. July 23. 1999 - 18:58:34 PST

	Name: wyvern blade
	Email:

and to whom has the real power to do so.?

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Friday. July 23. 1999 - 20:26:53 PST

	Name: Iluvyn
	Email: daasfan@mindless.com

who said it had to be one person?

SUBJECT: downsizing

Friday. July 23. 1999 - 20:29:33 PST

	Name: Arafëa
	Email:

Our culture is dying because let's face it when you tell people you believe in faeries, muchless "I am a faery" they kinda think you're crazy or have had too much crack. Thus, those young Fae are scared to be labeled "freak" or some other degredations so give up on it. My mother sees all my fae stuff (the calenders, the drawings, the Brian Froud, the decorations) and says "You know Faeries don't exist" Cynical people like that. Sorry, I'm so pessimistic for my first post in a few weeks. *hugs and pixie dust*--Arafëa ps. there are many out there that we do not see. perhaps we are looking in the wrong places or they do not want to be known.

SUBJECT: iluven

Friday. July 23. 1999 - 20:36:11 PST

	Name: wyvern blade
	Email: _wyvern@excite.com

my friend what to do?

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Friday. July 23. 1999 - 21:03:50 PST

	Name: Nettle
	Email: NettlesLair@webtv.net

I'm gonna hazard the opinion that our lifestyle is harder to lead these-a-days. I mean, I always think of Fae as carefree and light-hearted--an easy way to be back in the day when we could just frolic in the woodlands and no one would bother us. These days, human problems (because so many of us live among them) tend to drag us down, and eventually many fairies lose hope. Due to urban developmnt, we've lost many of our forests, and even frolicking is decreasing due to social diseases. And just try to be mischievous! Next thing you know, you've got a harassment suit on your hands! Is it any wonder Fae are getting scarce? Not to mention, who wants to bring an innocent changeling into this world of ours? And have you seen the price of toadstools lately? Ridiculous! (Much like this posting--heehee)

SUBJECT: WE are the FAE...

Friday. July 23. 1999 - 21:13:45 PST

	Name: HaZel
	Email: DenihmEire@AOL.com

Sisters and Brothers, we are the Fae. Perhaps we are dwindling because we are not standing up for who we truly are. Perhaps, as we are aging we tend to act more human than not because we are afraid to speak. Believe me, there are more of us who live than known... May our voices be heard!

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Friday. July 23. 1999 - 21:57:55 PST

	Name: luvyn
	Email: daasfan@mindless.com

i suggest that we figure out a way of reaching others- we know what the problems are. there isn't anything to stop us doing something about them that couldn't be overcome.

SUBJECT: That IS a good Question.

Friday. July 23. 1999 - 23:08:11 PST

	Name: Henionolwe
	Email: " "@hotmail.com

I don't nessesarily think that we are a dwindeling race because these days we are not a Race at all. We are a State of Mind. At one time we were an actual Race...and I believe that our time will come again. It seems that this thing called Face Value has wrapped itself so tight around the Earth today that there is seemingly no room for Otherworldly things. And I see so many Fae that are so trapped and torn with confusion and disbelief that I sometimes wonder if their souls truly do become "lost". I really hope not. ... Tolkien has this 'view' that there was at on time waht he calls "the Straight Road" through which man could pass un-hindered into the other-world and back. And now in this Age of Mortals the Straight Road is now Bent............... It is my belief(here i go again w/ these damn 'beliefs') that now adays we who are Fae are NOT MOSTLY HERE. But that it is only a part of our truly Fae Soul that inhabits this Plane. The rest are sitting and waiting. That this is a Trial Run before the True Second Coming. And I see many Fae who carelessly piss there life away on ridiculous irresponsibility because part of them is still used to the Timlessness of their Otherworldly Youth. And this is all about Karma. And finally the Day will come when Mortal things like Time will be forgotten and we can frolick and sing in True Peace....Maybe that is Heaven on Earth. I thinl that the Fae are to stay on this Earth and the Mortals have a bigger Quest beyond the Circles of our World...but for now we must share. The mortals must grow on this Earth and Learn from Us. So we who are incarnate along side of them, must learn and grow as well..."go West young Man"

SUBJECT: That IS a good Question.

Friday. July 23. 1999 - 23:08:59 PST

	Name: Henionolwe
	Email: " "@hotmail.com

I don't nessesarily think that we are a dwindeling race because these days we are not a Race at all. We are a State of Mind. At one time we were an actual Race...and I believe that our time will come again. It seems that this thing called Face Value has wrapped itself so tight around the Earth today that there is seemingly no room for Otherworldly things. And I see so many Fae that are so trapped and torn with confusion and disbelief that I sometimes wonder if their souls truly do become "lost". I really hope not. ... Tolkien has this 'view' that there was at on time waht he calls "the Straight Road" through which man could pass un-hindered into the other-world and back. And now in this Age of Mortals the Straight Road is now Bent............... It is my belief(here i go again w/ these damn 'beliefs') that now adays we who are Fae are NOT MOSTLY HERE. But that it is only a part of our truly Fae Soul that inhabits this Plane. The rest are sitting and waiting. That this is a Trial Run before the True Second Coming. And I see many Fae who carelessly piss there life away on ridiculous irresponsibility because part of them is still used to the Timlessness of their Otherworldly Youth. And this is all about Karma. And finally the Day will come when Mortal things like Time will be forgotten and we can frolick and sing in True Peace....Maybe that is Heaven on Earth. I thinl that the Fae are to stay on this Earth and the Mortals have a bigger Quest beyond the Circles of our World...but for now we must share. The mortals must grow on this Earth and Learn from Us. So we who are incarnate along side of them, must learn and grow as well..."go West young Man"

SUBJECT: That IS a good Question.

Friday. July 23. 1999 - 23:10:01 PST

	Name: Henionolwe
	Email: " "@hotmail.com

I don't nessesarily think that we are a dwindeling race because these days we are not a Race at all. We are a State of Mind. At one time we were an actual Race...and I believe that our time will come again. It seems that this thing called Face Value has wrapped itself so tight around the Earth today that there is seemingly no room for Otherworldly things. And I see so many Fae that are so trapped and torn with confusion and disbelief that I sometimes wonder if their souls truly do become "lost". I really hope not. ... Tolkien has this 'view' that there was at on time waht he calls "the Straight Road" through which man could pass un-hindered into the other-world and back. And now in this Age of Mortals the Straight Road is now Bent............... It is my belief(here i go again w/ these damn 'beliefs') that now adays we who are Fae are NOT MOSTLY HERE. But that it is only a part of our truly Fae Soul that inhabits this Plane. The rest are sitting and waiting. That this is a Trial Run before the True Second Coming. And I see many Fae who carelessly piss there life away on ridiculous irresponsibility because part of them is still used to the Timlessness of their Otherworldly Youth. And this is all about Karma. And finally the Day will come when Mortal things like Time will be forgotten and we can frolick and sing in True Peace....Maybe that is Heaven on Earth. I thinl that the Fae are to stay on this Earth and the Mortals have a bigger Quest beyond the Circles of our World...but for now we must share. The mortals must grow on this Earth and Learn from Us. So we who are incarnate along side of them, must learn and grow as well..."go West young Man"

SUBJECT: WhaT IS THIS!?!?!?!

Friday. July 23. 1999 - 23:11:34 PST

	Name: Henionolwe
	Email:

uhmmmmm...SOMTHINGS NOT RIGHT HERE!!!!WHERE IS MY STUFF.?!?!?

SUBJECT: That IS a good Question.

Friday. July 23. 1999 - 23:12:31 PST

	Name: Henionolwe
	Email: " "@hotmail.com

I don't nessesarily think that we are a dwindeling race because these days we are not a Race at all. We are a State of Mind. At one time we were an actual Race...and I believe that our time will come again. It seems that this thing called Face Value has wrapped itself so tight around the Earth today that there is seemingly no room for Otherworldly things. And I see so many Fae that are so trapped and torn with confusion and disbelief that I sometimes wonder if their souls truly do become "lost". I really hope not. ... Tolkien has this 'view' that there was at on time waht he calls "the Straight Road" through which man could pass un-hindered into the other-world and back. And now in this Age of Mortals the Straight Road is now Bent............... It is my belief(here i go again w/ these damn 'beliefs') that now adays we who are Fae are NOT MOSTLY HERE. But that it is only a part of our truly Fae Soul that inhabits this Plane. The rest are sitting and waiting. That this is a Trial Run before the True Second Coming. And I see many Fae who carelessly piss there life away on ridiculous irresponsibility because part of them is still used to the Timlessness of their Otherworldly Youth. And this is all about Karma. And finally the Day will come when Mortal things like Time will be forgotten and we can frolick and sing in True Peace....Maybe that is Heaven on Earth. I thinl that the Fae are to stay on this Earth and the Mortals have a bigger Quest beyond the Circles of our World...but for now we must share. The mortals must grow on this Earth and Learn from Us. So we who are incarnate along side of them, must learn and grow as well..."go West young Man"

SUBJECT: @$%$$@^@$$@&!@!!!

Friday. July 23. 1999 - 23:14:16 PST

	Name: @%$!@#!@!@!!%@$#!$$!!!!!!
	Email: !@#@#$%#^$%##$@#^@!!!

arggggggAARRGGGG!!!!!whereed ti gooooooo!!?!?!??!

SUBJECT: That IS a good Question.

Friday. July 23. 1999 - 23:15:50 PST

	Name: Henionolwe
	Email: me

I don't nessesarily think that we are a dwindeling race because these days we are not a Race at all. We are a State of Mind. At one time we were an actual Race...and I believe that our time will come again. It seems that this thing called Face Value has wrapped itself so tight around the Earth today that there is seemingly no room for Otherworldly things. And I see so many Fae that are so trapped and torn with confusion and disbelief that I sometimes wonder if their souls truly do become "lost". I really hope not. ... Tolkien has this 'view' that there was at on time waht he calls "the Straight Road" through which man could pass un-hindered into the other-world and back. And now in this Age of Mortals the Straight Road is now Bent............... It is my belief(here i go again w/ these damn 'beliefs') that now adays we who are Fae are NOT MOSTLY HERE. But that it is only a part of our truly Fae Soul that inhabits this Plane. The rest are sitting and waiting. That this is a Trial Run before the True Second Coming. And I see many Fae who carelessly piss there life away on ridiculous irresponsibility because part of them is still used to the Timlessness of their Otherworldly Youth. And this is all about Karma. And finally the Day will come when Mortal things like Time will be forgotten and we can frolick and sing in True Peace....Maybe that is Heaven on Earth. I thinl that the Fae are to stay on this Earth and the Mortals have a bigger Quest beyond the Circles of our World...but for now we must share. The mortals must grow on this Earth and Learn from Us. So we who are incarnate along side of them, must learn and grow as well..."go West young Man"

SUBJECT: I was havin' "issues"

Friday. July 23. 1999 - 23:17:06 PST

	Name: Me agin
	Email:

sorry for all the jargon!

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Friday. July 23. 1999 - 23:25:14 PST

	Name: Iluvyn
	Email: daasfan@mindless.com

I'd be inclined to go east myself:) k- what you said is all well and good in the long run, but what do we do in the mean time? we could all st on our collective arses and wait for someone else to do something but that sounds decidedly human to me. there has to be something.....why do i get the feeling i'm going to be studying ancient manuscripts again........ faeries,elves,dryiads and all the other billions (exaggeration) of kinds are just as prone to becoming human as humans are to becoming fae. only...... only what? damn it!

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Saturday. July 24. 1999 - 06:33:27 PST

	Name: StarMae
	Email:

We're a group nobody believes in. It's plain and simple like that! Like someone said, I believe it waqs Arafea, if you tell someone you believe in fairies, they'll tell you you've had to much crack. (Actually, to kinda change the subject a little bit, there's an awesome book by Mercedes Lackey and Ellen Guon that takes place in mordern day world. This musician is a bard and awakens an elf, and a whole bunch of wacky stuff happens. At first the bard thinks it's a hallucination from the drugs he was taking, . . It's really a great book and it's called Bedlam's Bard.) Anywayz, the point is that we need believers! No fae can exist without those who have faith. Our world today doesn't have blind faith in almost anything anymore. I don't know how we'll go about getting more believers, but really that's what needs to be done.

SUBJECT: "Say my name Atreyu!!!"

Saturday. July 24. 1999 - 09:05:00 PST

	Name: Henionolwe
	Email: henionolwe@hotmail,com

I've only read the "Winds of Change" series by Mercedes Lackey, but it's seems obvious that she has some clue of whats goin' on. BUT as far as faith goes....I think that one only needs Faith in Ones Self. But the fact is that Mortal Eyes have molded waht is seen now. As for unseen... I mean..when I go to work and everyone is dripping w/ banality...I don't seise to be What I am. I just have to be a bit quiet about it.(unless i'm feelin' perky and mess w/ people)

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Saturday. July 24. 1999 - 09:39:14 PST

	Name: sliver
	Email:

So why don't you do something about it?

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Saturday. July 24. 1999 - 09:42:52 PST

	Name: Shimmer
	Email:

Are you implying that you are a faerie?

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Saturday. July 24. 1999 - 09:45:49 PST

	Name: Shimmer
	Email:

What do you propose be done?

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Saturday. July 24. 1999 - 09:48:05 PST

	Name: Tylith
	Email: morrigan99@hotmail.com

This may sound stupid, but wouldn't a fae colony (not online like this one) help people to realize that the race exists or that they are one too?

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Saturday. July 24. 1999 - 09:49:48 PST

	Name: Shimmer
	Email:

I hadn't realised so many people actually believe in faerie

SUBJECT: why people stop believing

Saturday. July 24. 1999 - 09:54:59 PST

	Name: arianna
	Email: autrey1943@aol.com

or one grows up and stops searching for answers with no logical alibi. Innocence of the mind transends into realty's cage, a place where magic of any kind ceases to exist.

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Saturday. July 24. 1999 - 09:57:40 PST

	Name: Shimmer
	Email:

I believe in faerie

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Saturday. July 24. 1999 - 10:29:50 PST

	Name: Shimmer
	Email:

but tylith, what if they existed on the edges of our reality, remaing unseen to all except those who have opened their third eye

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Saturday. July 24. 1999 - 12:44:06 PST

	Name: Michelle
	Email:

I think that Tylith means a colony of part-fae, like us. I would like that very much, but the problem is that there just aren't enough awakened part-fae to have colonies-- one big colony, maybe-- but not enough to have faery groups and stuff. As for "what are we going to do about it?", I think the answer is quite simple: Look amongst yourselves! There are many poeple that haven't been awakened yet-- think about how you yourselves got here... it took time to realize you were fae, didn't it, and that all this was real, right? But wouldn't it have been easier if someone had SHOWED YOU THE WAY?! It can be as simple as giving a friend who's artsy and interested in fairies the web address to Lavendise. I stumbled here over a year ago and this is how I was awakened. WE ARE NOT A SLOWLY VANISHING RACE-- WE ARE ALL HERE, BUT WE ARE HIDDEN!

SUBJECT: Great Idea! a fae colony

Saturday. July 24. 1999 - 14:08:40 PST

	Name: Dh'arlo'me
	Email: dryiad_fae@hotmail.com

That is perhaps the best idea I've heard in oh such a long time. Truly the mark of a sage. I know now it may sound like one of those Waco fanatical extremist groups, isolated from society, but isolatio is what we need. i have the ideal place in mind. A vision of sorts. In a huge forest preserve (dryiads, elves), the mountains (dwarves), rivers & streams (nymphs), valley glens. And that is the sort of thing we need to start our race on the up , and a place for those half fae to come to full awareness instead of being stifled into submission by the hustle and bustle chaos filled human ways.And again the question arises, who has authority, or gall, to do this. And we sit on our arses and wait. Exactly like humans!(drawing this from an earlier post-thanks)I say, whats to stop us. We need someone to step forward and be a leader. As glorious ad achingly tempting it sounds, after much soul-searching I know it will not be me. Instead I go back to my forest and wait . Not as a sheep, but a reclusive outsider witing for a trail to be blazed. Up and arms! Thats what I say. And I admit, I do soud as if I'm on crack. I'm not. Just energised to action tis all. What do all my brothers and sisters think of this I ask? Dh'arlo'me

SUBJECT: What life is like

Saturday. July 24. 1999 - 18:50:15 PST

	Name: Serenity
	Email:

I stumbled onto Lavendise not too long ago. I knew faeries when I was a child, but have never heard an adult say that they believed, much less that they were fae. I suspect that many try to blend with the environment in which they find themselves. I know I do.

SUBJECT: "Faith makes Real"

Saturday. July 24. 1999 - 19:00:03 PST

	Name: Thres
	Email: tiene_sith@usa.net

People are afraid of being outcast. They shut away anything that may make them too "different". For some reason, I was treated as "different" for as long as I remember, so I know nothing else as far as being "accepted". And for some reason, I've never wanted to be. Actually, the colony sounds pretty cool though.

SUBJECT: Ixnay on the Olonycay

Saturday. July 24. 1999 - 19:38:23 PST

	Name: Nettle
	Email: NettlesLair@webtv.net

As much as I like the *idea* of a part-fae colony, somehow i think we'd all end up killing each other, or at least not speaking to each other. You see, the problem here is that so many of us have had to guide ourselves, we've blazed different trails from each other. What I mean to say is, some us can barely get along here. If you were to throw us all in one region, do you have any idea how many "this is/that is not what faeries do" arguments we would have? we may share the same blood, my kindred, but that does not always make for automatic harmony. (Think Unseelie--no offense, Sprig!). Still, it would be nice if it worked.

SUBJECT: by the gods nettle- have faith!

Saturday. July 24. 1999 - 21:40:43 PST

	Name: Iluvyn
	Email: daasfan@mindless.com

I've only been in Lavendise for the passed few months but feel so at home here it's not funny. like every damn animal on earth we bicer and quarrel- what can you expect when we are all at least part human? this idea of a colony is nothing short of brilliant. we could accomplsh a lot. granted we'd put a lot on the line aswell. i am too young and way to inexperienced to be even thought about as a leader though i would be more than willing to help in any other way. but we must reach out of ourselves and like i said in the subject header thingy "have faith". if we don't theres no point to even dscussing this. dh'arlo'me you have my support. nettle- anything is possible if you want it enough (everyone should know that by now) shimmer and sliver-welcome and what are your opinions.? we should all give this serious thought-don't just pass it off as a fantasy that'll never happen.blessed be

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Sunday. July 25. 1999 - 00:47:41 PST

	Name: Soma
	Email: Somamata@aol.com

Egads, why do I always have to be the pessimestic one? I just now read this entire conversation, for some reason I missed it before. And I must say I agree with Nettle. I could give you a dozen reasons why it might not work to all live together. It didn't work for Hippies (granted, heavy drugs were involved). But all that aside,I think it's better for fae and humankind if we do not isolate ourselves from non-belivers. If we live among them and try to do our own little good, in our own little way. As someone else said, awaken others, that is the only real way to change things. The more the mightier. I get frustrated with some christians 'cause they are all about sitting on their high horse and waiting for god to just come along and make them perfect. They've been waiting a long time. Well perhaps "god" (or whatever you prefer) is waiting for you to get up and "make" something happen. You've got to get down in the trenches, if you will. This doesen't mean that we can't appreciate each others company. May I offer a slightly more reasonable alternative that could also be a first step to those of you dedicated to having your own community? Why not have a gathering? Let's set aside a week or two a year to congregate. Think of how powerful and invigorated you would feel by spending a week with like minded people, sharing ideas, teaching each other skills, listening to speakers, and just getting wrapped up in the festivity. Everyone would leave refreshed, and ready to face the non-believers again. It would be incredibly uplifting. I hear a lot of you complain about being the only one "like you" that you know, or that there are only a small handful of you". But think of how you would feel if Lavendise could materialize for a small time. Seeing so many of your brothers and sisters in one place, realizing that there are more than you thought. And even teach those that are just curious about the Fae. This would not be entirely about congegating, it would also be about teaching awarenes to everyone. Something like this would attract attention to you cause. Good publicity. I have a vision, and it's much more complicated than this post will allow, but it excites me to think of it. This is feasable. And it would all happen and end before anyone started bickering or tiring of one another. Just something to think about. Hey, that didn't turn out too pessimestic did it?--Soma

SUBJECT: just slightly pesimistic :)

Sunday. July 25. 1999 - 03:19:14 PST

	Name: Iluvyn
	Email: daasfan@mindless.com

True soma- an actual colony would be an incredibly large effort that would be a waste of tme if everyone involved wasn't there whole heartedly. maybe in time it'll happen. as to the gathering i believe the young wyvern is already planning one (and has been for quite some time know). what say you wyvern?

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Sunday. July 25. 1999 - 03:32:31 PST

	Name: severance,the birds of leaving call 2 us
	Email: yet here we stand endowed with the fear of flight...

(i typed this up yesterday, but thought it was crap. and far too long, as always!) ~~~~*~* blind faith: there still *is* a lot of blind faith,... unfortunately, i dare say: 'cuz no matter if it's blind faith in leaders, gods, goddesses, the police, capitalism, communism, feminism, masculinism, monarchism, (even anarchism), priests, the government, UFOs, scientists, druids, the military, your employer, faeries: too often it's an escape from aimless chaos into an imaginary safety. StarMae, i'm sorry if this sounded harsh; i know *you* weren't thinking of ^uniformed brainwashed faceless masses^; it's not your fault that i have that phobia: *blind* faith to me is stifling, narrowing, keeps you from arriving at your own conclusions, keeps you from questioning, might eventually kill your curiosity; that's what makes it "blind". ~*~ there's a lot to be said for logic, to be wild and fae seems more logical to me than to spend your days in the #misery# of your own shadows and the dread organized dullness of "being normal". not that i'm even half as logical as i wish i were. um where was i? ~~~~*~* the whole colony thing is just crazy, but i love it ;) i've been dreaming of that for a dozen years or longer, even though i'd really need to be a hermit in order to stay sane (well i told you i'd move to the moon didn't i? (hermit with neighbours.)) like soma said it's already been done and gone wrong unfortunately, so maybe you better start at the beginning... shared houses, etc... spread the spirit right in the middle of The Pit... see if you can survive six tortured artists or hyper sprites on pez (do i have your attention now? ;3 ) ~~~~*~* as for gatherings, they exist. you might want to look at this or check out the Rainbow People. they aren't 100% faerie lore based though, so they probably suck (*irony*). (well me i can't deal with being in a crowd anyway) ~*~ hm. fae? i know it's kind of nice to have a label to tell yourself apart from the sickening, maddening monotonous grind you've learned to call "human". but i think the spirit (the whatever-makes-you-fae) is an innately ~human~ thing: in some ways not unlike the hippies/goths/punks/new agers: the *reaction* of outsider souls to what's wrong with the dull mainstream. i dunno, but is ~awakening~ really so much different from the growing urge to dance barefoot with flowers in your hair, or wear tons of black mascara and keep a pet rat, or whatever? atheists too can be enchanted by a falling star, a beautiful melody, a cute savage freckled face, or whatever. ohvell.. i've never believed in anything, maybe i'm really missing out on something. but wouldn't that be a bit like saying you can't be against pollution unless you're wiccan? i wish people would stop "filing" everyone... (that's not very fae anyway hmmmm?)... and retain some playfulness ~*~ wellwellwell this was *my* little rant. subjective, biased, not intended to hurt anyone's feelings, not intended to be The Truth, not intended to make you fall asleep either. i too need to stop talking and start doing..

SUBJECT: AND ANOTHER THING!

Sunday. July 25. 1999 - 03:50:57 PST

	Name: Iluvyn
	Email: daasfan@mindless.com

Ok then...i forgot to ramble in my last post:)*G* so in the case of this here convo i'll be the overly optimistc go getter. "there is always one or more reasons not to do something" i know you could give us more than a dozen reasons for not even consdering the whole colony thing....but there are some very good reasons for doing it aswell. being hypthetical (SP) for a second- say we had already brought about our environmentally friendly colony of fae. we all have powers to a degree yes? joining together in a proper light could only do us good- and others. as with all communities not everyone gets along but i would be willing to bet that our differences are only skin deep and if we truly are fae at heart and spirt we could overcome these problems. and again- t'd be a community like any other (with a few major improvements:) you wouldn't have to live there if you didn't want to. if you feel you could do better work by staying wth other humans then by all means do! like soma said- the more the mighter....that isn't true if the mighty are divided. therefore my friends, elven brothers, faerie spirits, nymphs,dryads, water babies, dwarves,knomes and all the rest of you gve this thought. if it does happen it's gonna need a WHOLE lot more than a couple of fae from around the world to get it's butt off the ground. Soma- tell us about your vision. I'm done with my ranting for now. see ya all in my dreams.

SUBJECT: please think about this

Sunday. July 25. 1999 - 04:17:26 PST

	Name: Justric
	Email: justric@hotmail.com

Ok, go ahead and start a colony/commune of fae. Oh, by the by...how do you plan to pay for the land? Let's face it, Antartica is probably the only place where squatters wouldn't be minded, except by polar bears. How do you plan to pay the property taxes? Who will set up the plumbing and housing? Education and Medical services? Food? Even communes are restricted by hunting laws. If you are going to buy food, where will you get the money? Growing food? Better meet all the local regulations for agriculture, oh and that takes more land...you'd have to cut down trees! These questions are just the tip of the ice berg. ..........................

SUBJECT:

Sunday. July 25. 1999 - 04:51:10 PST

	Name:
	Email:

ummmmmm... was that a response to my post, iluvyn? peace on earth and mercy mild, =^..^=

SUBJECT: DUuuuuuuuuude!!! That PIC!!!!

Sunday. July 25. 1999 - 09:14:33 PST

	Name: ILUVYN!!!!
	Email: Henionolwe@hotmail.com

THAT IS THE PHATEST PIC THAT I HAVE EVER SEEN IN 6 LIFETIMES!!!!!!!!!by the way.....I think I agree with Justric on this colony ting. Although I believe that Greenland and/or Alaska will be the next cradle of civilisation. PATIENCE

SUBJECT: 'Cause i gotta have faith (butt wiggle)

Sunday. July 25. 1999 - 09:16:32 PST

	Name: Nettle
	Email: nettleslair@webtv.net

Hmmm...where do I want to go with this. Iluvyn, I guess I'll answer you first. Basically, I'll put it this way--I *have* faith--in myself. Not that I don't believe in you guys, but while I like to think that people (and fae) are always as they represent themselves, that does not always tend to be the case when you actually meet someone and spend a lot of time with them. (Soma-- guess I'll taking over the pessimist role for now!) I mean, *I* act a little different here than I do in my mundane life. Why wouldn't others? Plus, a lot of us tend to have very strong opinions. Not necessarily a bad thing, but it would make the colony difficult to work out to everyone's ideal. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Okay, enough about that! As far as a gathering, that would be extremely cool, but I would hate to put the organization of it on anyone. That's a lot to worry about! Boy, am I a downer this morning! Wait, I know. I haven't had any coffee yet. Be back later! (Even fairies need their cuppa joe!)

SUBJECT:

Sunday. July 25. 1999 - 11:15:56 PST

	Name: Soma
	Email: Somamata2aol.com

Well you caught me in a very idealistic mood. I just got back from doing my first Mehndi show and I'm on top of the world 'cause me made a lot of money. But about the gathering thing. That's very cool that people have already started them, I figured they would have. I've never been but I'm going to check out the Cat's link. I've never heard of Rainbow People but have friends who go to Rainbow Gatherings, don't know if it's the same thing. Ah, my vision, well before I tell you let me warn you that I always get in over my head. What I'm thinking would take years planning and a ton of money intialy. It would however make a profit. Here's what you do, you pick a spot, a town that is not too big, yet driving distance to a larger city. You put together a committee, comprised of many different Fae/humans (I say it this way 'cause I think all Fae Here are human, if there are faeries out there, I don't think they use computers) so that each can contribute something different. You make a schedule of events, include live Entertainment, and music (the bigger the names the more people will come but involve up and coming entertainers also), have speakers come from all over to talk not just about "faeries' but about all the different things you as people are interested in (i.e. dreaming, healing, alternative religions). Offer classes on the basics of herbology, or massage. Teach appreciation of the earth. Arrange a huge space for venders to set up, and sell their wares, art, and food. Organize, organize, organize. Then pubisize, publisize, publicise. Really there's no difference between this and any other Earth-day, New age, wiccan Renaisance festival, except that the Fae would be talked about more often. A few years ago I attended a U.F.O. conference, held near a reservation in South Dakota. They mannaged to tie in Extra Terrestrial lifeforms and Native American Spirituality, and people ate it up. They came from all over the world. Of course it would also be twenty times the work I'm making it out to be. Like I said i tend to get carried along, and I'm particularly optomistic right now. so when I come down, I'm sure I'll come back with all the reasons why it won't work. Oh well--soma

SUBJECT:

Sunday. July 25. 1999 - 12:44:20 PST

	Name: Michelle
	Email: Windsinger1@juno.com

I agree with having a gathering-- that's a good start, and a more accomplishable one at that. I don't think we should worry about not getting along-- we certainly have a better chance of getting along than we would if we were purely human; from what I've heard from you all, most of you accept the differences in others, listen to others' ideas, respond to eachother, help eachother, and most importantly, we share our feelings and we are good at communicating with eachother. We let nothing slip by us. No matter how different we all are, we share common bonds-- the strongest [erhaps being our spirituality. As for temporarily isolating ourselves, I htink this is a good idea-- remeber, "united we are strong". A short term gathering would bring us great understanding, strength, hope, and happiness so that we will be able to return to humankind stronger and refreshed. *Although, like I said earlier, how can we do this-- they're just too few of us too spread out, so how can we all meet in ONE place?*

SUBJECT:

Sunday. July 25. 1999 - 13:06:31 PST

	Name: Michelle
	Email:

I think we should have some sort of camping thing out the woods by a lake if we can manage htis.... does anyone live in MA? I'll be thrilled to help plan something!

SUBJECT: I proposed a gathering, but got no resp.

Sunday. July 25. 1999 - 13:27:14 PST

	Name: Sir Jerek Trueblood Ap Fiona
	Email: seelyknight@hotmail.com

I did work with a few otherkin to work things out, even had lodging partailly taken care of, but I got VERY little responce if any! I like your idea of a fae city, I have heard rumors of them in the past, but could not find them(I heard thorpe's are highly xenophobic!) If your dream becomes reality let me know, I will join you in your endever. P.s. Part of why their are fewer of us has been show on this very topic, Dreams are the last thing we have left, let's not insult other people's dreams with BANALITY , no matter how silly;) silly- root word seely- meaning blessed

SUBJECT: Now that I'm mostly awake. :)

Sunday. July 25. 1999 - 15:15:37 PST

	Name: Thres
	Email: tiene_sith@usa.net

I was too tired to really post much last time, so I never did finish what I was thinking (if I even really was ;)). A colony does sound like a pretty cool idea, but I doubt even I'd really join. I'm a loner, through and through. I could just see it, everyone gathered around a fire or something, I'd slip off into the shadows just to avoid everyone. No offence intended, I've just been like that since I was old enough to wander away from groups. Gatherings sound better, but some of us (like myself) would have no money, resources, or any way to get to the gathering.

SUBJECT:

Sunday. July 25. 1999 - 15:19:01 PST

	Name: StarMae
	Email:

Actually, I never thought of blind faith that way, JaJa. I always thought of it totaly differently! As in believing so strongly you need no material proof, . . .You just have the inner feeling it's true and that's what your heart tells you, having a deeper sense of knowing and truth than anything you can see with your eyes can possibly show you, instead you see with your heart and soul! You see past what your eyes show you, since looks can be often be deceiving. In your soul you know what's right and you know the truth, and you believe in it when your eyes show nothing.

SUBJECT: It can be done!

Sunday. July 25. 1999 - 16:10:37 PST

	Name: Faelinn
	Email: faelinn@lgcy.com

*gathers what she can grasp of her thoughts* Okay. Gatherings do take a lot of organization, and even money. But they are doable. Especially if the attendees bring donations toward the cost. And you could either have it often--like anually--or set the date far enough ahead that everyone could save up their money to be able to go. I have a friend who did an AmberCon. So I think this is very possible. Or another idea is to attach ourselves to the SCA, and just go to their events. Hehe. You KNOW that people there would have an inbuilt interest in faeries. And they have LOTS of events, all over the world. We could make a Faerie House within the kingdoms or whatever. (btw, SCA=Society for Creative Anachronism. They research and recreate medieval times. SCA's site I hope that link works. Never tried to do that before. And as for a community or colony...I just had the thought that most of us awaken rather young. I did in high school. I doubt most folks' parents would let them go off to live in a commune. ;) Anyway, there's me thoughts. See if you can catch 'em! =) ~Faelinn

SUBJECT: StarMae.............~*~*~*

Sunday. July 25. 1999 - 16:11:21 PST

	Name: =^..^=
	Email:

yes as i said i knew you didn't mean it that way... sawri if i hurt your feelings, i'm a reclusive sociophobic idiot. maybe because i like none of the "truths" *my* heart tells me i kinda wanted to save handfuls of pixidust for those whose beliefs work *against* them. or who just don't believe in fae though everything about them *is* fae. the need to look down on humans is so human!.. hee. ~~~~~~~~*~*~* methinks the =^..^= has made *some* sense somewhere in there (~a pity it doesn't seem to mew anyone's language *sigh*~) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~*~*~* soma, rainbow gatherings were what i was thinking of, i'm not too sure whether they call themselves rainbow people or rainbow tribe~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~*~*~* 2+2=5, my friends =^..^=

SUBJECT: dwindling. . .?

Sunday. July 25. 1999 - 16:35:24 PST

	Name: Lanthir
	Email: LSilivren@hotmail.com

How many fae have you met who have lost themselves in worldly things? How many souls have you passed on the streets, pent up on heroin in search of another better place? how many have fallen? how many fall. . . This physical world is no place for us.

SUBJECT: i'd like to think that it would work...

Sunday. July 25. 1999 - 17:36:22 PST

	Name: Axroin
	Email: storms beneath my skin...

a faerie colony... hmm... i should think that it could be done, but it is very unlikely... do not deny that everyone here has a doubt about their own beliefs... it is *that* doubt which would destroy the whole plan, system, court, or whatever you would like to call it... yes, a colony could be a good thing, but there are many negative aspects... mainly dealing with cult overtones and brainwashing... if the idea had gotten far enough, the people involved would have to deal with the media and other hostile forces such as mom and dad... yeah, land and food and what-not are an issue, but thdese things can be gotten... what is difficult is the realization of the goal... you people want a commune and everything is working against your favor, and you all KNOW this to be true... you don't want to believe it, but it IS all the same... now, what could be done about this to actually bring the reality to life? how would you start a fae colony? *WOULD* you start a fae colony? i should like to say that the more realistic choice is a gathering of sorts, be it annually or whatever... the question is "will anyone take it seriously?" i am not here to dispute... i merely question, like a summer breeze tickling the back of your mind...

SUBJECT: SCA, mon. Play some SCA!!

Sunday. July 25. 1999 - 19:02:49 PST

	Name: Justric
	Email: justric@hotmail.com

Faelinn: hate to kill the SCA concept in the bud, but if any of us went SCA (and I have been and gone) it would be without Faerie personae. The Society does not accept personae that can be considered "fantastic" or "unbeleivable". I'm sure there are those members that would not care if we called ourselves fae in our mundane lives, but at the events? No, historical personae only. Been there. Done that. Read the book. ...............

SUBJECT: wow- popular subject.

Sunday. July 25. 1999 - 19:07:19 PST

	Name: Iluvyn
	Email: daasfan@mindless.com

OK! i've forgotten most of what you all said so i'll probably end up posting twice or something. hee hee- chanx henionolwe (i luv that pic too:) the girls are called neo ranga if you wanna look em up. as always Justric has various valid points that would need to be dealt wth. and they could be dealt with. (thankyou to whoever posted with the fox pic-i forgot your name- but you have some good q's) i agree with you all about the gatherings. they are do-able and are a good place to start. s'ides, i'm not lookin' for an insta city or anything. this is just an idea for the long run of all of us. soma-you go grl*(high pitched voice)*. of course this could be done. the big alrounder question is *ba ba ba da!dramatic music* are we all willing to put in the work it would require of us to get our own lil piece of the pie? whether it be the gathering or the building or preferably both....... will you wor for it? as to the subject of blind faith- i think t's a very bad idea. faith is good.it's linked to hope which happens to be something very useful. but blind fath can do more harm than good.k- i'm done here.i'm gonna go back and read the whole convo and think about what i'll put foward next.bb

SUBJECT: death

Sunday. July 25. 1999 - 19:32:37 PST

	Name: Justric
	Email: justric@hotmail

There is also the one truth: Everything Dies. ...................................................

SUBJECT:

Sunday. July 25. 1999 - 19:37:02 PST

	Name: Iluvyn
	Email: daasfan@mindless.com

and is reborn...........

SUBJECT: justric

Sunday. July 25. 1999 - 20:55:31 PST

	Name: wyver blade
	Email: _wyver@excite.com

pess much man I meen what the hell? hey try checking into something like the florida swamp lands they are free you cannot claim any right to it. to matters of one beliveing in something strong enough it can happen. it takes time though. well start up folks if you want a gathering start it find a commitiee, leader , and people who are truely willing to commit. it takes a alot of time and effort buy stay focused and do it vote who to be your leader stick by them find who wants the job. . basicly quit whineing and just do it!(NIKE) sorry if that last part offends anyone but hell if you want it do it!!!!!

SUBJECT:

Sunday. July 25. 1999 - 23:13:36 PST

	Name: Thres
	Email: tiene_sith@usa.net

I'm not a big one for gatherings. I figure I find the people I need as I go along. Fae can't be all that hard to find, we all stumbled into this place one way or another, didn't we? If we started following that same instinct in other areas, maybe we'd get somewhere. And for Axroin, not everyone here has doubts about there beliefs. I know my heart and my soul enough that nothing can shake my beliefs anymore. Been there, done that, got bored.

	Name: Henionolwe
	Email: HHMMMmmmm

SUBJECT: well...they're not totally nackers:)

Sunday. July 25. 1999 - 23:52:37 PST

	Name: Iluvyn
	Email: daasfan@mindless.com

Okay then. so we went from why,to maybe it isn't actually,to what are we gonna do about it, to maybe we can do this ,to no we can't do that, to then maybe we can do this, to -hey yeah! that sounds ok!, to what the hell would any of it accomplish anyway? just say it now- what the hell do you people want already? hee hee- didn't mean to try and compromise you morals henionolwe *big ass grin*....who am i kdding?hee heeeeee

SUBJECT: SCA

Monday. July 26. 1999 - 02:15:48 PST

	Name: Faelinn
	Email: faelinn@lgcy.com

I know I know...some ppl in the SCA are so ANAL! But I think it's perfectly historic. If we're here now, doesn't it stand to reason that there were Fae around back then??? Heheheh =) The SCA in my area is a bit more lax...you can kinda do what you want, I guess. After all, it could be a house of personae who THINK they're bloomin' faeries!! Yeah! Hermit monks who've been living in their forest caves just a wee bit too long... ;) Hey--it could work...! Anyway, that way we'd have a big international house, and at any event a Fae might attend, they could fly the household's flag and camp with other fae, and gather new fae and awaken them into the bargain. Besides, I would think that most ppl interested in the middle ages would be interested in faeries. They are PART of the middle ages, after all. Well ~I~ thought it was a good idea... =) ~Faelinn

SUBJECT: PIX!

Monday. July 26. 1999 - 02:23:04 PST

	Name: Faelinn
	Email: faelinn@lgcy.com

BTW, Thres: I really really like your pics, especially that last animation. Iluvyn: Those anime pics of yours (the swirly-girls) ARE very lovely. Justric: Your black-and-whites are nice. The green man's my favorite. I LOVE FANTASY ART!! =) Kay, that said... ~Faelinn

SUBJECT: can u say kinky? hee hee

Monday. July 26. 1999 - 02:36:23 PST

	Name: Iluvyn
	Email: daasfan@mindless.com

chanx faelinn (sorry if i misspelled!). *clears her throut* what f we start our own organisation. *Iluvyn wats for the rocks to be pelted*

SUBJECT: ps

Monday. July 26. 1999 - 06:07:06 PST

	Name: wild one
	Email:

did some one say they where an unseeli knight*wild grin* i'm the princess of darkness myself, but only by choice.

SUBJECT:

Monday. July 26. 1999 - 09:39:02 PST

	Name: =^..^=
	Email:

~hei fox~, your pic really soothed my eyes after all the manga/anime "cleanliness". (i switched the graphics back on to see it.) ~henionolwe~ i'm living a couple thousand miles or so east of saskatchewan... hee. in germany. (yawn.)

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